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Post by thenextmeltzer on Oct 9, 2009 10:00:30 GMT -4
Look , I know everyone wants to know how I feel about this so I will FINALLY clear the record.
I think that these are two of the best wrestlers of all time. I do think Bret should have just dropped the title. But things got so heated with the canadian fans and Shawn that Bret felt he couldn't let Shawn get away with all those crude comments at the fans. But Bret had in his contract that the last 30 days he could leave how he wanted. Vinces fault.
Then Vince lied to Bret about the finish. Which wasn't very cool at all.
Thanks for all the questions guys. Keep them coming.
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Post by sideshow on Oct 19, 2009 14:24:14 GMT -4
Bret Hart = one of the most overrated wrestlers of all time. Don't get me wrong, I loved the program he ran with HBK, but Michaels way superceeds Bret.
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Post by Big Sal Salami on Oct 22, 2009 7:13:05 GMT -4
it is all a work
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Post by Devin on Oct 26, 2009 17:32:04 GMT -4
Bret Hart = one of the most overrated wrestlers of all time. Don't get me wrong, I loved the program he ran with HBK, but Michaels way superceeds Bret. I'd argue he's underrated.
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Post by beenwah on Oct 26, 2009 18:50:20 GMT -4
lol underrated? man you really are stupid.
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Post by Devin on Oct 27, 2009 2:55:24 GMT -4
Why?
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Post by beenwah on Oct 27, 2009 13:19:23 GMT -4
I just Dont see how a 5 time wwe champ, 2-3 time ic champ, tag champ, king of the ring, royal rumbel winner can be called underrated!! First of all I don't think he's good enough to be scripted in to the show to win all those titles. But if you said Rick rude was underrated you might be on to something. But you didn't. You had to go down that same road that all smart marks do and say how great Bret hart was.
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Post by brendanistheman on Oct 28, 2009 0:00:58 GMT -4
bret hartr fgtz loloolloololooolllol he lykz hartz n da teem on sd sux mai bawlz evn tho dat chik iz hawt n i fuxd her up da butz lolololooololololloolrfllzofl,a,mao, ;D
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Post by Devin on Oct 28, 2009 12:02:33 GMT -4
I just Dont see how a 5 time wwe champ, 2-3 time ic champ, tag champ, king of the ring, royal rumbel winner can be called underrated!! First of all I don't think he's good enough to be scripted in to the show to win all those titles. But if you said Rick rude was underrated you might be on to something. But you didn't. You had to go down that same road that all smart marks do and say how great Bret hart was. What does any of that stuff do to back up your point? If anything it just proves mine. I think you're confusing being underrated with being underutilized. Were we talking about Rick Rude?
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Post by beenwah on Oct 29, 2009 16:41:26 GMT -4
I just Don't see how a 5 time wwe champ, 2-3 time ic champ, tag champ, king of the ring, royal rumble winner can be called underrated!! First of all I don't think he's good enough to be scripted in to the show to win all those titles. But if you said Rick rude was underrated you might be on to something. But you didn't. You had to go down that same road that all smart marks do and say how great Bret hart was. What does any of that stuff do to back up your point? If anything it just proves mine. I think you're confusing being underrated with being underutilized. Were we talking about Rick Rude? really? do i have to hold your hand and walk you through this? first off my point was i thought it was funny that you said he was underrated as i think hes overrated, hint the "lol underrated?". second how does it prove your point, unless your point was hes overrated and i misunderstood your post. what i was trying to say is how can marks.....such as yourself....keep saying that hes underrated when he won all what i said above plus many other titles that i didn't include? Bret hart is a great wrestler. but i just don't see why people say hes underrated when hes....well do i really have to re type out what i JUST did in my previous post? do me a favor little devin...just re-read what i posted before before i have to embarrass you in front of all the people that come to this board. but if you want to go there ill be happy to go. ill even explain the rick rude thing if you still don't get it
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Post by niggaluva on Oct 29, 2009 17:20:50 GMT -4
You niggas is dumb.
Stevie Ray and Kamala be the must underrated niggas eva!
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Post by Devin on Oct 30, 2009 3:10:41 GMT -4
Ok clown. Titles held has absolutely nothing to do with being over or underrated. NOTHING. It's about how high the casual meathead, such as yourself holds the wrestler compared to how good he really was. Technically, psychologically there was nobody better. And since dumbasses like you think he didn't even deserve one IC title run...that makes him underrated in my book.
It aggrivates me more than anything to hear fuckin fans say this guy didn't deserve this and that. You have no idea what kind of hard work and dedication guys, ESPECIALLY at that level have put in. Every single one of them deserves something. Bret was regarded by his peers as one of the safest and most consistant wrestlers of all time. That's the kind of guy you want holding your championships.
Yea, I'm not really a mark but go ahead and embarass me.
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Post by oscaristheman on Oct 30, 2009 4:51:48 GMT -4
Ok clown. Titles held has absolutely nothing to do with being over or underrated. NOTHING. It's about how high the casual meathead, such as yourself holds the wrestler compared to how good he really was. Technically, psychologically there was nobody better. And since dumbasses like you think he didn't even deserve one IC title run...that makes him underrated in my book. It aggrivates me more than anything to hear fuckin fans say this guy didn't deserve this and that. You have no idea what kind of hard work and dedication guys, ESPECIALLY at that level have put in. Every single one of them deserves something. Bret was regarded by his peers as one of the safest and most consistant wrestlers of all time. That's the kind of guy you want holding your championships. Yea, I'm not really a mark but go ahead and embarass me. ur dum
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Post by jerrysmeer on Oct 31, 2009 11:28:40 GMT -4
Can you describe to me why his psychology was so good? Everyone says he was the best there ever was, etc...but every match I watch of his, he is working the back, then he stomps the guy's stomach, then does a forearm to the throat, then a figure four on the post. I'm pretty sure that's bad psychology but then again who am I?
On being regarded as one of the safest and most consistant wrestlers, you know who else was? Scottie to Hottie but you don't hear anyone calling him the best there ever will be, do you?
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Post by Devin on Nov 2, 2009 2:32:42 GMT -4
Sure, he usually targetted the back and legs...I suppose that is bad psychology. Oh wait, no it's not because his finisher is the sharpshooter. Why would you ever work anything else? Why is it bad psychology to soften up the body part that you apply your finishing hold to? I only recall him locking the figure 4 on the post a few times btw. I'm pretty sure he didnt start doing that until the mid to late 90s.
Are you saying the work of Scotty Too Hotty... a man who (no disrespect to him) did the worm in the ring, followed by a karate chop as a finisher was as convincing and hard hitting as Bret Hart's? The uncommon denominator in the safe equation is the fact that his work was 99.9% more realistic and yet he always took care of his opponent. THAT'S the difference. That's what made him great. He did the right move at the right time...and executed it better than anyone else.
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